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Reconciling Bill Ryan and Steven Greer on “Bad ETs”

September 2, 2010

Bill Ryan continues to pursue his disagreement with Dr. Steven Greer over whether or not “bad” extraterrestrials are present on the planet, in this conversation with Richard Dolan.

Double-click on the video to go to Youtube and watch the second part.

The conversation is a non-problem, as far as I can see, but arises for people who don’t follow SaLuSa, Matthew and the rest of our sources.

Dr. Greer said, at the Barcelona Conference on July 25, 2009, that:

“These extraterrestrial civilizations are here to help us and to understand us and to be here when we become a mature civilization ready to go into space peacefully. None of them are hostile by the way. If they were, this conference wouldn’t be happening. We wouldn’t be breathing the free air of Earth.”  (1)

Bill Ryan charges Steve with saying that no “bad aliens” exist on Earth and points to the abduction phenomenon, etc.

Both points of view have correct elements to them. Let me make a list of the points I regard as true.

[1]  The civilizations Steve Greer was pointing to, which he has had contact with, have not come to do us in. None of “them” are hostile.

[2] But, by the same token,”bad aliens” have existed on our planet. The Anunnaki misused us and are one example. (2) The little Greys exist, whom I believe are the same as those Dan Burisch calls “P45s,” standing for present day plus 45,000 years into the future, (3) are from Zeta Reticula and are another example. (4)  They are responsible for the abductions. Tall Greys such as Phil Schneider described existed (5) as do literally dozens of other races. (6) The tall Greys are another example of a hostile race.

[3] Yet none of these “hostile” species, though they may have done immoral and regrettable things to individuals, has taken the Earth on as a whole.

[4] But, at the same time, the light energies on the planet are rising and are driving the “bad aliens” off the planet. SaLuSa and Matthew Ward has said that they’ve reached the point, combined with our space family’s measures, where no further “bad aliens” can come to Earth. Here’s SaLuSa:

“No forces on or off Earth can now make any difference and we of the Galactic Federation are charged with ensuring your success. … Of course there are negative Space Beings, but they are prevented from interfering with your Ascension.” (7)

And here is Matthew:

“Groups or individual souls immersed in darkness cannot approach the protective grid of Christed light energy that surrounds the planet—light is anathema to their dark essence.

“The dark forces, a vast and powerful energy field that can roam the heavens and cause chaos, even the death of entire civilizations and their planet homelands, no longer is near your solar system. When distant civilizations started beaming intense light to Earth, that force field left because it cannot tolerate light.

“The spiritually and technologically evolved civilizations that God authorized to start helping Earth about 70 years ago are unquestionably of the light. It was light from some of those powerful civilizations that drove away the dark forces.

“When it is safe to do so, some of the millions of light beings surrounding the planet in spacecraft will land to share their technology and otherwise assist Earth and her life forms, then return to their homelands.” (8)

I direct you to these further sources which will give you as much additional material as you may need:

Footnotes

(1) Steven Greer, “Contact and Disclosure: The Final Sequence,” at the European Exopolitics Summit, Barcelona, 2009, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oLJNfs_rM&feature=related, starting at 14:45. Note this similar remark from David Wilcock: “It is absolutely true that the vast majority of extraterrestrials are benevolent and peaceful in nature.” (David Wilcock, “Management Notice: Prepare for Transfiguration,” Divine Cosmos, Sept. 3, 2010, http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/863-managementtransfig .

(2) See, for instance, Ag-Agria of Sirius, June 12, 2009, at http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm

(3) See “Dan Burisch on Dark Forces and ETs” at http://www.angelfire.com/space2/light11/fc/corrob1.html#burisch1

(4) See “On the Little Greys (Zeta Reticulans)” at https://sbeckow.wordpress.com/nwo-essays/on-the-little-greys-zeta-reticulans/

(5) See “The Man who Killed 2 Alien Greys” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbONIQfQmDU

(6) See Clifford Stone’s interview with Project Camelot at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_3aneRPOg Clifford repeats the remark at the beginning of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sofwHQejYQw

(7) SaLuSa, May 24, 2010 at http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm

(8) Matthew Ward, Sept. 21, 2009, at http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm

5 Comments leave one →
  1. Liber Artos permalink
    September 4, 2010 9:59 pm

    Stephen, according to Zecharia Sitchin in the Earth Chronicles, the Anunnaki did at one time dominate the entire earth and are not all bad, but that the negatives may still be pulling the strings of the Illuminati. This information comes from clay tablets as apposed to channeled information and I think it is more reliable. Liber Artos.

    PS. I very much appreciate the work that you do. Your site is the first place I go each day to try and figure out the truth about what is going on.

  2. John Kronske permalink
    September 3, 2010 12:35 pm

    In my view, both are absolutly right, but they come from a limit of scientific research and mortal point of view. When the same facts are combined with a blessed perspective of celestial guidence, an even higher truth of this same situtation appears and can look entierly different for the open hearted. 🙂

  3. Baruch permalink
    September 3, 2010 9:18 am

    I do not know Richard Dolan but do know Dr. Steven Greer. From this clip it is obvious that
    they are coming from two different paradigms. If one chooses Divine Love as their Directive
    coupling that w/the Ascended Masters then I know that it should be easy for those of us to
    view the truth. Dr. Steven Greer is pointing us all to the Divine Love paradigm even in this
    subject matter and NOT FEAR. Divine Love encompasses the highest levels of wisdom &
    knowledge and though it may seem foolish to FEAR BASED discussions on any level, the
    ingredients of discussions, premises and conclusions of DIVINE LOVE will ALWAYS succeed.
    Ultimately DIVINE LOVE is ALL that IS. Blessings……

  4. September 3, 2010 6:51 am

    Here’s the answer Kryon who’s usually channelled by Lee Caroll gave in a meeting intended to answser the participants’ questions about the ET’s and their presence on Earth :

    “And, yes… there are definitely extraterrestrials on the planet Earth.

    “The ones who visit are no threat to you or to God or to the system you have set up for yourselves.

    “They’re curious about you, since they see the divine in you – something that you don’t!

    “They have almost no power unless you give it to them.

    “As we’ve said before, they’ve been here for more than 60 years, yet they have yet to show themselves conclusively.

    “This means that they hide for a reason… they know that we’re powerful, and that our consciousness could accidentally destroy them.

    “These who are here now are not important in the final scheme of things on the planet.

    “So if they appear to you, simply tell them to go away, and watch them retreat!

    “Someday, however, you’ll meet the ones who will be meaningful to you.

    “Don’t be surprised when they look just like you.”

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/36600350/Kryon-Questions-Answers-About-ET-s

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